Tuesday, January 20, 2015

The MoneyShot Snipes You With HOT Political TAEKS.


"Bro.  You gotta check out the hooters on this Iraqi chick before I blow them clean off."




I don't do this often ever but today we're going to get mildly political at The MoneyShot.  I tend to avoid subjects like these since they usually start mindless Internet wars that will never be solved.  But then I thought about it and realized...we do that shit with sports on the reg anyway, so who gives a fuck?

Everyone is talking about this new movie American Sniper.  The Academy is rock hard and lubed up, ready to pepper this flick with all the awards.  But many on the Interwebs seem outraged by an alleged misinterpretation of the sniper in question.  Admittedly, I knew nothing about Chris Kyle when the movie trailer was released.  I saw a war movie starring Bradley Cooper and violently fist pumped for a good 15 seconds after.  I just envisioned Clint Eastwood laughing like a bastard while rolling around in stacks of money completely naked.  I'm not sure there is a better money making equation in Hollywood.  War + actor that cranks out the jams = fuck load of money.  It's a nearly fool proof formula.  Even now, I'll admit that I still don't know a lot about this guy.  Or I should say I don't know if the information I have is completely accurate.  The Internet can be a dangerous place to get believable information these days.

From what I've read, apparently Clint Eastwood has really ruffled some feathers with this one and the film has brought into question exactly who this Chris Kyle guy is/was.  I've read some articles and watched some interviews and it seems like there is a definite divide in opinion.  Chris Kyle American Hero or Chris Kyle American Psycho?  You have right wing people celebrating Chris Kyle the solider and calling him a true American hero because of the countless number of American lives he is responsible for saving.  Then you have left wingers calling Kyle a hate filled, murderous bastard who "loved" killing and who was insanely racist.

Here's my ELITE opinion on the matter.  It's going to take a lot more than Michael Moore flapping his fat jowls for me to think poorly of a guy who put his life on the line to protect mine.  I personally know one SEAL and he's a Kentucky gay boy who turns a blind eye to improper NCAA benefits and incest.  The SEAL I know is not a bad mother fucker that could kill you with a paper clip.  It takes a special combination of crazy and stupid to become a Navy SEAL and they probably need to be in order to do what they do and live with it.  You have to be born with a certain mental makeup that differs from most normal people, IMO.  What I'm saying is I'm not judging this man for whatever faults he may have had.  Because I know who isn't becoming a SEAL.  Me.  I also know who isn't fighting terrorists.  Also me.  And to be honest, I think I require the guys making sure I don't wake up with a bad guy's assault rife pressed firmly against my nose, a little off upstairs and radical with their actions.

I think these left wingers just need to R-E-L-A-X.  The men and women in our military risk their lives to make sure that Americans like me can do stupid shit like be gluttonous assholes at ridiculous food challenges.  So I'm gonna cut our soldiers a little fucking slack when it comes to the manner in which they defend my freedom.  So maybe Kyle did enjoy killing terrorists.  Okay.  So fucking what?  Wouldn't you?  Just a little?  Especially if it meant an American solider lived in the process??  So what if he was a little hate filled?  I can safely say that I would also probably hate the people responsible for me waking up in the desert every morning wondering if today is the day a four pound spider bites my dick off.  I think any normal person would be somewhat hate filled in that situation.  And I don't think I need to point out the fact that every last one of you fuckers here is a little racist.  Also...who gives a rat's ass that he wrote a book about his experience to try and reap some monetary benefits, post war? The military guys I know tell me the pay sucks and is really hard to live off of.  So I see nothing wrong with a little side action.

Maybe my opinion will change if I get more information.  Or more credible information.  But from what I've seen and read so far, it sounds like sad, gun hating hippies are just trying to poke holes in a story about a man responsible for saving a lot of American lives.  If that is indeed the case...go eat some granola and find something else better to do, you fucking losers.  Anyway...I figured this would be a nice break from sports and something new to talk about.  Have at it, fellas.

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

Didn't realize there was controversy over this movie. Like most political items, seems like a waste of fucking time and gives both sides on the media side of the spectrum another opportunity to be loud and dumb. Based on what you said...Team Don't Give A Fuck What He Killed. Maybe I'll read the book and educumate myself on this feller.

--Drew

Anonymous said...

Solider

GMoney said...

If he's killing hard-working Americans? BOO! If he is murdering "dune coons" halfway across the world? Not my problem or conscience.

Iceman is trying to cover up the FACT that he watched Mockingjay Part 1.

I was really hoping that we could talk about Lacey's pathetic Twitter meltdown last night.

Grumpy said...

Read the book. Our troops call snipers 'guardian angels". He did the job he was trained to do. It's not like he asked to be there.

My take:

http://grumpy-olddog.blogspot.com/2015/01/liberals-off-target.html

GMoney said...

Are we going to sit here and allow Grumpy to whore out a link in our comment section? Don't click on it. It is a link to dude dong.

Anonymous said...

Gotta be honest....Lacey's twitter meltdown was not his best outing on the internet. Trying to shift the convo from the Bulls to the CBJ was a desperate move.

--Drew

Mr. Ace said...

Hmmm.....actually just had a small conversation about this last night. I'll say this; I do have a problem with a lot of these gloryboy stories because I do feel like it is additional propaganda for a recruiting machine that already spends $700 million a year convincing young to people to join the military. And it's not an attack on any individual soldier, I support them 100%, it's about our military as a whole. I believe the Chris Kyle story centered around Iraq, which is a country that we had absolutely no business being in related to 9/11. That whole thing is/was a sham. We send young people into the poorest countries in the world, kill thousands of people, the majority of them civilians, and then when these soldiers come back home they are so mindfucked that they struggle to function...and the VA is a clusterfuck. And the army still owes their own troops money. And these retired army generals are lined up with cushy CEO/Board member jobs from the companies that are profiting most(Halliburton) from our war in the Middle East.

I don't have an issue with Chris Kyle, regardless of if he was a lunatic. But I do have an issue with the majority of what our military does and how it is presented to the public.

Anonymous said...

SPOILERS

I have seen the movie, but I thought this was semi common knowledge, since you know, it happened in real life and was all over the news. So here is your warning.

The movie was really good, but it was a puff piece. Fuck yes the guy was a lunatic, but most SEALS/Marines are. It takes a certain kind of person to go HAM in the military to a special forces position, and completely sane isn't a trait. The guy was an asshole, by most accounts. Reading a book and watching the movie off said book is OBVZ slanted.

This is the guy, afterall, that was such an abrasive asshole he got sued by Jesse THE BODY Ventura and had to pay $1.8 million. Well not him, since he got shot in the face, by an even crazier sniper, but his widow did.

I need to cycle back through this meltdown.

Ide

Nibbles said...

I've met several guys who are former special ops and each of them have turned out to be the most level headed, stable individuals I've met. The only things that stands out the most to me is their convictions and ideals. To call all of these guys "mindfucked", "insane", "lunatic", whatever is DUMB.

Are you basing your opinions off of news stories, movies, books? Or are you basing your opinions off of actual people you've met?

Mr. Ace said...

Nibbles, I'm not calling Chris Kyle lunatic or mindfucked...I said that was irrelevant to me.

However, I have near daily interactions with the VOA trying to find services for disabled and/or homeless veterans. The shape that a lot of these soldiers come back to the states in shouldn't be acceptable. I have no idea what kind of guys that you have met, and I don't know how many several actually is and I have no idea how well you actually know the people you are referencing. I get a snapshot into what some of these men and women go through personally, not just a one-off meet and greet setting. My clients can hold perfectly coherent conversations and seem very stable in interactions, but that's not their life.

GMoney said...

Watch where you step, everyone, Ape's heart is bleeding all over the comments. But he probably does make some rock solid points.

As usual in this country, it is the system that is broken, not the individual (most of the time).

I just assume that all soldiers are Private Pyle or Animal Mother. I need to watch that movie again.

Nibbles said...

My point isn't to cast a wide net overall of these guys. I know the VA is a disaster and does not treat their veterans fairly. The biggest injustice in this country is how shitty we treat guys who risk death for us.

But, I'm just throwing it out there that not ALL of them are in despair.

I don't have statistics as to how many are homeless versus raising stable families in suburbia, but it's nothing that can be generalized in one direction or the other.

Grumpy said...

Ace, you're talking separate issues. Going into Iraq was a mistake based on a deliberate lie used to further an agenda. Chris Kyle, even if he was a psychotic, crazed, lunatic psychopath, didn't take us into Iraq.

Anonymous said...

I called him an asshole, for the record. Most stories that aren't his book confirm this.

"Going into Iraq was a mistake based on a deliberate lie used to further an agenda."

Easy there, tiger. They found plenty of WMD's in Iraq, over 5000, actually. Why it was never published, and was even covered up, by Bush no less, is beyond me, but I wouldn't go on to say it was a lie. Here's the article by the NY Times.

http://goo.gl/d7B9Cn

Lacey's twitter was fun reading, I love his sports rants.

Ide

Mr. Ace said...

Correct. Not all veterans are in despair. 20% of Iraq/Afghanistan war vets are diagnosed with PTSD...most professionals say that number is exceptionally low as most soldiers hide it. And that doesn't even begin to cover Traumatic Brain Injury, Depression, the escalated divorce rate among veterans, and countless other obstacles. The stats exist. So I think I fairly large net can be cast. But yes, #NotAll.

I'm sure the movie is great.

Mr. Ace said...

Grump, I've made it very clear I have no issue with any individual soldier or Chris Kyle. But this movie is glorifying, rightfully or wrongly, a sniper that was part of an army occupying a territory said army had no business being in. I just don't think that should be glossed over.

GMoney said...

I think the only answer here is Commenter Duel. Pistols at dawn!

Jeff said...

Fuck politics. Book was good, I will see the movie. Blood everywhere from bleeding hearts here today.

Mr. Ace said...

I hope I didn't break the comments today.

And Ice, we're NOT ALL racist. Don't pawn off your bigotry on the rest of us.

Nibbles said...

Ace,

Do you consider yourself an isolationist?

T. Iceman said...

I knew this would replace Grumpy's viagra today.

"My clients can hold perfectly coherent conversations and seem very stable in interactions, but that's not their life."

So fucking true. I have a close friend who is suffering from PTSD and he said almost this exact same thing.

I would hope by now that everyone knows that any movie coming out "based on a true story" is going to be tricked out version of what Hollywood thinks should have happened. The real story is almost never suited to make a shit load of money by it's own merit. But I the problem I have is every time a movie like this comes out, people ignore the fact that Hollywood facelifts everything and there is always some dick wad trying to do everything they can to focus on every negative part of the subject matter. GIVE IT A REST, already.

T. Iceman said...

Ace is the most racist of them all. He pretends to like rap to throw off the scent.

Gotta check out this twitter meltdown now...

Mr. Ace said...

Nibbles, No. Is opposing being in Iraq based on blatant lies and misinformation that extreme?

Ice, DAMN YOU!

I, too, will now go check out this meltdown.

T. Iceman said...

It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Lacey was right to rip on G$ for celebrating a January win. Because fans of teams expecting to win a title always chest thump wins before the All-Star break. LOL.

Nibbles said...

No, I don't think you're extreme at all for your reasons in condemning Iraq. It's obvious that Cheney had interests in there that benefited from an invasion, and it's common knowledge the Bush family had personal reasons for wanting Hussein out of office.

But, it did result in the establishment of a democracy in a country previously subject to genocide by its government.

Just to be clear: I'm not defending a republican president's decision to invade. I'm just attaching some meaning and worth for what our vets fought for in Iraq.

I'm not isolationist. I think America has an obligation to help lesser countries' people fight for their own sovereignty. I would like to think the Iraqi War in part fulfilled that obligation.

MUDawgfan said...

And I don't think I need to point out the fact that every last one of you fuckers here is a little racist.

Your honor, the defense pleads guilty provided he's allowed to punch Mike Vick and Terrence Moore directly in the dick.

Anonymous said...

I can't be racist, I live in Brooklyn.

Ide

T. Iceman said...

Punch away, Dawg. Punch away.

Ide is racist against non-hipsters.

Mr. Ace said...

Fair enough. Maybe I'm overly skeptical, but where you see America helping lesser countries people fight for their own sovereignty, I see us/our allies taking advantage of a situation or cleaning up a mess that they likely funded in someway anyways.

Grumpy said...

Ide, I read the article twice and what I get from it is that what we found and destroyed were abandoned munitions containing chemical agents left over from the Iraq/Iran war. It doesn't sound like an active WMD program with any kind of delivery capability.

I stand by my statement that we were told egregious lies by the Bush administration in order to make the case for invading Iraq.

On a macro level I agree with much of what Ace says; on a micro level, once in a war, the soldiers are just pawns in the game.

GMoney said...

I'm out of here. Wake me up when you nerds start talking about Brazzers.

Mr. Ace said...

I'm pretty sure Brazzers no longer has trailers for their scenes. This must be why I hadn't visited that site in years. You fucking rat.

GMoney said...

I regret nothing. These people work hard for your boner!

T. Iceman said...

G$ has ice cold political TAEKS. Very non American, IMO.

GMoney said...

It is a weakness. No guff there. I do think it's important to blame the 88th District State Rep for all of this sniper controversy though. Hiding behind Eagle Scouts is just one more way he dodges the real issues IMO!