Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Urban Meyer Is Clueless

Mommy WOW!  I'm a big kid now!
Hey now!  The title of today's post has to make the blood pressure of many of our fine contributors rise but all I ask is that you hear (or read) me out because I like to think that I make great CEREBRAL points.

I think that it's pretty obvious that Urban Meyer knows what he's doing.  His history is proof of that.  However, I also think it's TOTES OBVZ that I know football better than most.  I would even say that I understand the game better than King Buttfucker only because I've never faked a life-threatening illness or whatever to leave this site.  Advantage: G$!  So with all due respect to Urban Meyer (and he doesn't deserve it since he treats everyone like garbage), you're doing it all wrong with Braxton Miller.

Here are some FACTS about Miller:
*He isn't a freak athlete like Terrelle Pryor, but he is still ELITE
*Passing accuracy is not a STREMPH of his
*He is likely always going to be a work in progress
*He has been injured every year even in high school at Wayne (named after Wayne Park, no doubt)

These are all truths.  There is a LOT to like about Braxton Miller but there is a pretty good chance that he never can consistently put all of his tools together to become a lethal combo of Cam Newton's running and RG3's passing skills.  Holy shit, I'm not joking, if he could make that happen then I would be a very sad panda.

My problem is, through two games at least, that he is being coached all wrong.  There seems to be this notion that Urban is out there trying to murder everyone to prove some sort of point to no one in particular.  Maybe he's hoping to get an AP paper title or something but that isn't going to happen because HAVE YOU SEEN THE TOP TEAMS IN THE SEC AND PAC-12?  The Buckeyes could run the table and no one is going to vote them #1.  Ever.  So it doesn't really make a ton of sense to me why Ohio State would go out of their way to run up the score on teams (as I mentioned two weeks ago).  They should be focusing on getting better every week first and foremost, not worrying about polls (although that might just be what the mouthbreathers are doing).

On the field, Braxton has been running his ass off on some broken plays but mostly on designed runs and zone reads.  After he ran 17 times against Miami, Urb vowed to lessen Miller's carries.  What happened this past week?  27 runs!  I don't care if Carlos Hyde got hurt or not.  YOU ARE OHIO STATE.  You have 6 other running backs that are good enough to not fumble and find ten foot wide holes.  Hell, drag Nate B out of the stands for a few carries.  Wouldn't you rather have him take the hits like these guys are supposed to over your franchise QB (who also doubles as your only playmaker on offense) that is injury prone?  Braxton's history shows that you are playing with fire when he tucks and runs.  It's not a matter of IF he get hurts, it's when.  FACT.

And for what?  You are playing for NOTHING but pride this year.  You shouldn't be going balls to the wall, win-at-all-costs this season.  That makes no sense.  You should still be trying to win them all, don't get me wrong, but not by putting your best player constantly at risk of taking HUGE shots.  So what should be happening?  I'm glad that you asked.

If I'm the head coach, I make him throw and throw a lot.  Yeah, we know that you can run, Braxton, but you can't hit a receiver in stride for shit.  This is a redshirt year for everyone so I will make you into a QB that can not be stopped.  And you aren't getting any better by taking a snap, making one read, running around like a guy on acid for 5 seconds, and then taking off up the field.  Sure, the fans love it, but it isn't making you any better.  Are you listening to me?  RUNNING IS NOT MAKING YOU BETTER.  He's a great athlete, like I've said, but you aren't going to be playing for a BCS title in the next two years if he's still throwing ducks like Denard.  You just won't.  Braxton Miller HAS to learn how to throw (don't give me his completion percentage this year as some sort of evidence that I'm wrong because I'm not and you know it).

That's my whole point and why I don't think Urban is doing a very good job (but I admit that I am very biased against the spread offense which is a post for another day).  So far, I haven't seen a ton of improvement on Braxton's weaknesses.  His STREMPHs are still ELITE and that's great.  But you aren't beating a Nick Saban or a Les Miles defense with a QB with the current passing skills that Miller has.  It isn't happening.

I don't expect Miller to ever become Andrew Luck or Bonerz Barkley, but he should be a better passer than Timmy Tenor was at Florida.  I'm not saying this to be a dick.  I'm saying this because you all expect a national title next year and in order for that to be a possibility, Miller needs to be more than a runner.

In conclusion, the best thing for Braxton Miller and the future of Ohio State football is to give up on this theory that "everyone must be destroyed" and treat this season like it should be treated...as experience and trial and error.  NO ONE is getting better by watching Miller scamper 60 yards on broken plays.  He needs to learn how to throw the ball accurately in live game competition.  If it means that Urban can't get his precious 60 points wins over far less talented teams then so be it.

Because I'll tell you one thing: it's all adorable now to see your QB run around like Usain Bolt, but on 9/29, William Gholston is going to try and rip out his heart Temple Of Doom-style.  That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the point of my post today, just a warning.  Gholston is a psychopath.  Finally, you've got 2.5 more years with this kid who has all the talent in the world.  There is no reason why he can't be an actual QUARTERBACK instead of his current position of "RB that throws footballs sometimes".  Unless you want another Denard...do you want your own Denard?  Thoughts?
Hey Sean Connery, did I nail this post?

88 comments:

Grumpy said...

You sort of nailed it. Miller is a great athlete who plays QB; he can throw until his arm falls off and he will never be a Cam or RGIII.

Remember, Urban won championships with Leake and Tenor.

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MUDawgfan said...

The only comment I would add to this is that I agree with the fact that this entire year is basically a "Redshirt Year" in terms of B1G competition.

Outside of Michigan State and Nebraska and maybe a semi competant Perdue - your schedule is pretty light this year. Why not use the time to get better? Become more like Alex Smiff at Utah or Chris Leak...less Tebow.

GMoney said...

Exactly, gentlemen. I'm not saying that he sucks or anything, just that, SO FAR, he is being used ALL WRONG.

Sean Connery fist pump is the greatest thing the internet has to offer this week.

Anonymous said...

LOLZ @G$....You are like an idiot Buckeye fan that would be freaking out over two games. It's two fucking games...he kind of knows what he's doing.

First of all, we really don't have a stable of 10 RB's that can play and won't fumble. Jordan Hall...injured. Carlos Hyde...injured. Warren Ball...injured. Rod Smith...did play, but fumbled. Brionte Dunn...true freshman that will start this Saturday. Hell, he had 185lb Philly Brown rushing the ball last Saturday and he's a WR.

Urbz has to get his playmakers in. Instead now he's left to rush Braxton and spread the ball. I believe Braxton completed passes to 7 different players last Saturday.

I don't think Braxton is as big of an injury risk as you do either. He's a lot bigger now than when he was in high school and last year he just missed one half of one game. That's not bad at all for any QB.

It amazes me just how much more dangerous of a runner he is than Pryor was. I think it shows that ELITE quickness is more dangerous than ELITE speed.

So, I expect the rushes to decrease when Jordan Hall and Carlos Hyde are back full-time. It's been two games.

You're also a pussy for that whole "running up the score" schtick.

--Drew

Jeff said...

He is being used with the vanilla base plays right now(which are mostly read option runs). The more complex passing game is coming, just wait. Urban knows he can't carry the ball that many times and survive the season. He should take notes from Tajh Boyd.

But his stutter steps are so dirty we all like to see him run...

There's no worries if he gets hurt because J.T. Barrett will be the troof.

The Iceman said...

Hoooo, buddy. Just wait until Brady chimes in today after reading what you said about his lover. Just know that Brady thinks Miller's arm is WAY better than Denard's. Emphasis on the "way" as illustrated by all caps.

What you're going to hear a lot of today is that "He'll be fine". And he's "got time to improve". Or "he's only a Sophomore". Well, Michigan fans said the same shit about Denard his Sophomore year and here we are in year 4 still scratching our heads at the multitude of the bonehead throws he makes. Here's the reality of the situation...it's not going to get better. This is who Braxton Miller is and it's who he will always be.

You'll be hard pressed to find a run first QB that eventually morphs into some brilliant pocket passer. It's instinct for these guys to take off when shit gets hot and coaching someone to ignore their instincts could be one of the most impossible things to do. Braxton Miller is talented, yes. But he'll never be more than an average passing QB.

Jeff said...

What happend to Denard from his Sophomore to Senior Year? Maybe a coaching change? Maybe a coach that went from an offensive mindset to a defensive mindset. If Denard had Rich Rod for all 4 years he would be a lot better (the defense would still suck though). Don't under estimate a change in coaching staff and playbook.

Ice, don't be mad that Meesh got rid of the only coach who knew how to maximize Denards talents.

GMoney said...

Give the ball to Zack Boren 20 times and let him rumble his way to 100 yards. He's built much more capable of taking on a multitude of tacklers and who cares if the fullback gets hurt anyway. Injuries are no excuse. No one says, well, we've got 3 rbs hurt so we might as well just have our only ELITE talent run the ball now! THAT IS DUMB AND NO ONE THINKS THAT WAY. Except for apparently Tom Herman now.

RB depth is only a problem for guys who have no idea how to recruit. BOOM!

Teach him how to throw (not just in practice) and I promise that you assholes will have the chance to be even more insufferable which I assume is your goal in life.

Running up the score is for fags and Jerry Glanville.

Maybe you're right. Maybe once the other guys get back, things will change. But I doubt it since your coach likes to wipe his ass with his Daddy/Daughter Rules. HOW ADORABLE OF A LIAR HE IS!!!

This isn't even a troll post. It is a FOR GOD'S SAKE THIS GUY COULD BE INCREDIBLE BUT YOU WON'T LET HIM WING IT post.

GMoney said...

Good point, Jeff, and it's why I steered away from too many comparisons between the two awful passers. They are no Tahj Boyd who is probably getting a morning beej from Jeff Bostic's daughter right now.

Jeff said...

Bostic Beejs are ELITE!!!

(Yes I would know)

The Iceman said...

You can't put everything on a "coaching change". At some point you have to hold a guy accountable for being what he is.

Sure...the coaching change affected him in some way. But do you really think that if Denard had Hoke all 4 years instead of BitchRod he would be some electric pocket passer right now? Or if he had BitchRod all 4 years he would be a more accurate passer? No fuckin way. Denard is a running QB. He wants to run. Miller is a running QB. He wants to run. No matter who is coaching it's nearly impossible to change that mindset and get them away from what they've been comfortable doing since Pop Warner football.

Anonymous said...

Jeff...don't worry about Iceman. Basically, what Iceman is saying is "Because this is what happened with Denard, this is how it will happen with EVERY fast black QB. It's SCIENCE!".

Zoren fumbled last week too.

There has not been any "running up the score" done this year. Stop being a baby.

--Drew

Anonymous said...

I agree with you, G$. While watching the game on Saturday, I kept thinking, "Braxton is really taking a beating. We cannot keep this up throughout the season." I do, however, also agree with Drew that once our RB's get back, especially Jordan Hall, Braxton will not be used as much. I just hope its not too late and 27 carries is way too much for Braxton, no matter what the circumstance.

Also, Braxton Miller is definitely a better passer than Denard was at this point in his career. Hell, I would say it is even arguable that Braxton is a better passer than Denard right now.

-Lil' Strut

The Iceman said...

Don't worry about anything that Drew says, either. His philosophy is that never in the history of football has there ever been a Buckeye with a single flaw in their game.

And I'm not using just Denard, Drew. I'm saying ALL QBs that are run first are terrible passers and always will be. But if you would like to give me a list of guys that proves that statement wrong I'd love to read it.

The Iceman said...

Exactly how is Miller a better passer than Denard, LS? Because you say so? Because that's what Jim Lachey tells you? The stats certainly don't back up that wild claim. Denard completed 63% of his passes as a Sophomore. So by your reasoning, Miller should be at least 63% or higher by the end of the year, right? Completing 58% against a very UNDERRATED Miami OH defense is pretty counter productive to reaching that goal. He better step it up!

Anonymous said...

Ice,

One thing you are forgetting is that the "run first" QB's running ability is part of the reason they were recruited in the first place. Ohio State's offense does not ask, nor does it want, Braxton Miller to be like Andrew Luck. The offense is built around having a dual threat QB. Also, As a result of him having a great ability to run, the offense does not call for him to make the types of throws that a pure pocket passer would have to make. Often times the throws are predicated on a great run-fake or rolling out in one direction with recievers sitting down in open spots in a zone. For you to suggest that he needs to be a great passer for OSU's offense to flourish is absurd. Although it would be great, the offense does not require it. He just has to be good enough to make the throws he is expected to make.

Also, if we are talking about the college ranks, Troy Smith was a run first QB who was an excellent pocket passer his senior year who barely ran the ball all season.

-Lil' Strut

Jeff said...

Simple logic, Denard's duck prayers got caught. Braxton's bullets were too hot to handle and dropped. BOOM!!
TOTES LOLZ


Iceman is smoking out the ears, it's great!! Have fun with UMASS this weekend, at least they're D1 now.

Anonymous said...

Easy, Iceman. You're getting a little bit confused with passing nonELITEness. Sure, the completions may be a bit of a concern, but we had a lot of fresh WR's. Also, since passing between the two is such a hot comparison, lets dive into turnovers. How many INT's did Denard have compared to Braxton?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Miller is anywhere near where he needs to be, and he has TONS of room to grow. And if he even fills half of that void, he will be lethal. I agree with Drew on the running aspect, then again, how could you not? That UCF game wasn't a blowout, so ball control was important. Trying out your fourth stringer for carries in the middle of a 'war', isn't smart football. Granted, our fourth stringer is most teams second stringer, but I digress.

To summarize, Urban knows what he is doing, but he just didn't have many other options. I tend to agree with the injury factor as well, but clearly Miller needs to get better. And, aside from the running aspect, he will only get better with reps, which means more plays, which means for our underachieving OL, more busted plays that Miller will have to run his ass off.

Ide

Anonymous said...

Silly, Iceman, completion percentage isn't the only thing that defines a good passer. Denard's TD/INT ratio in his sophomore year was 1.64/1, while throwing 18 tds and 11 ints. Even last year in an abhorent offense, Braxton's TD/INT ratio was 3.25/1. You can bet your ass, he will not be better than 1.64/1 at the end of the season.

-Lil' Strut

Prime99 said...

A full post and 18 comments and no one has mentioned rubbing sweet cream on Braxton's thighs? Probably because Brady hasnt posted yet...

Miller will never be the pocket passer Craig Krenzel was on Urbs knows it.

No coach is going to knowingly play worse for the duration of any game. They'll try things here and there, but practices are where Braxton can learn to be a pocket passer/lower injury risk player like Michael Vick.

Anonymous said...

Clarification: You can bet your ass Braxton will be better than 1.64/1 at the end of the season. Also, Denard's TD/INT ration last year was an LOLZ 1.33/1. This year, although against far better competition than he is used to opening up against, it is 1/1.

-Lil' Strut

MUDawgfan said...

Notre Dame to the ACC.
Jim Delaney might be the worst commishioner in all of College Sports.

He's been totally screwed this offseason.

GMoney said...

While it may seem similar on the surface, I can assure you that Iceman and I do not share the same opinion on this topic.

Soften up UMASS before their big trip to YAGER STADIUM next week! FYI, UMass is AWFUL. Losing by 39 points to Indiana awful.

This year means nothing and you have like two tough games all year...force the kid to throw the rock.

GMoney said...

Not in football though, Dawg, so basically the ACC is getting nothing but a name.

Anonymous said...

Also, to illustrate my comment about Troy Smith going from "run-first" to good passer, below are his stats from the years in which he started:

2004: 55.7 %, 896 8 TD, 3 INT, 339 Yds. Rushing, 2 Rush TD's
2005: 63.9, 2,282, 16/4, 611 yds. Rushing, 11 Rush TD's
2006: 65.3% 2,542, 30/6, 204 yds. rushing, 1 Rush TD.

Looks like a pretty good transformation from run-first to pocket passer to me.

-Lil' Strut

Anonymous said...

Also, lets not forget Troy Smith won the HEISMAN for his year as a pocket passer.

-Lil' Strut

The Iceman said...

I understand why Miller was recruited to Ohio. And I understand that he fits the offense they run. What I don't understand is why everyone thinks he has this "other worldly potential" to be a great passing QB when history tells us it probably won't happen. Yes...he's a hell of an athlete and yes...he's a playmaker. I just don't think he becomes the passer everyone wants him to be. But at this point it's also stupid to argue about it since only time will tell.

Anonymous said...

Did Iceman really forget that Troy Smiff was a run first QB? Fuck...he was a kick returner his first year at OSU. He would take off instantly when he first started playing QB.

Dawg...do some research before posting.

--Drew

The Iceman said...

Troy Smiff. One example out of a million. Nice job. So we have it narrowed down to less than a percent of a chance that Miller develos his passing skills to a respectable level. Let me be the first to acknowledge my critical error.

Anonymous said...

LOLZ..."I'm saying ALL QBs that are run first are terrible passers and always will be. But if you would like to give me a list of guys that proves that statement wrong I'd love to read it."

Iceman then proceeds to get mad when the most OBVZ answer is thrown right back into his face. *Pats Iceman's head*...calm down buddy...it's OK that you were terribly wrong and that there was an obvious answer out there.

--Drew

GMoney said...

Smiff is a very good example. So is Cam actually. But there are millions of others that contradict those rare odds defiers so you both make great points. Except for Drew because Drew sucks balls.

Jeff said...

Iceman, you're better than this. I thought you had changed your ways. Statistic backed arguments get you every time. Take off your michigan colored glasses and look again...

It's alright buddy. No more Denard after this year and you get your Ryan Mallet type QB (Shane Morris) you've always wanted

Anonymous said...

To tie in my two points, though. Most of the time the run-first QB's are never asked to become pure passers, becuase the offense actually revolves around a running QB. So pointing to these few examples as "rare exceptions" is also discounting the fact that its not too often that these player even attempt to become pocket passers.

-Lil' Strut

The Iceman said...

I guess finding a handfull of guys that "prove" your point is enough to ignore the millions of examples that show you how misplaced your faith is. KEEP THE FAITH, BOYS!

Anonymous said...

You really do not like numbers, do you Iceman? Millions? Really?

-Lil' Strut

Anonymous said...

Strut...this point..."Most of the time the run-first QB's are never asked to become pure passers, becuase the offense actually revolves around a running QB." obviously does not compute into Iceman's head.

I also like the "millions" hyperbole he is using to exaggerate his points.

Jeff...sadly, Iceman is not better than this. As I've said...nobody says more dumb shit about college football than Iceman. You can actually imagine the poop coming out of his fingers as he types this stuff.

--Drew

Jeff said...

Good ole poop fingaz! LOLZ

Anonymous said...

It is true that most of the time, although not millions of time, running QB's are not asked to become pure passers, because the offense does not call for it. However, we gave one solid example of when the QB was asked to do so and did. I think Iceman is butthurt that Denard is being asked to become a pocket passer and is failing miserably. Lets face it, Denard is no Troy Smith. Of course, that is apparent from Denard's record against his rivals.

-Lil' Strut

Brady said...

Braxton has definitely been used too much in the first two games. There is no doubt that running our prized weapon that much is asking for trouble. I think Urban knows this (he said it again after the UCF game) and will adjust accordingly.

G$ made some valid points. I'm still getting used to this spread offense and it seems there should be more "pass or throw it out of bounds" plays. Unfortunately, Miller doesn't really know how to play that way. If something isn't there within the first couple reads, he is taking off down the field. I cringe every time he does it and takes a hit. But it's in his football DNA. I think it would be counterproductive to try and change his style.

I would definitely like to see his role cut down for the Illinois and Northwestern's of the world. Save those designed runs and option reads for the teams we will need them for (UM, MSU, Wisky).

I don't think Urban has tried to run the score up at all. Guiton has played numerous series already. Going for it on the goal line and in fourth and short is not a dick move. Practice on those kinds of plays is crucial. We are going to need a yard or a touchdown sometime in the future and these guys need to step the fuck up. If you can't get one yard at Ohio St., go play somewhere else. I LOVE the cocksure (ELITE word) attitude of Meyer. This team is going to be a monster in the next couple seasons.

Miller is a WAY better passer than Denard, Ice. Just deal with it. He's isn't Joe Montana or anything but c'mon.

GMoney said...

We need to hear from Dut on this topic. Why? I don't know but I guarantee that he has something dumb to add.

GMoney said...

G$ made some valid points.

You must be referring to ALL OF THEM!

Anonymous said...

Dut is probably too busy grooming his beard to take time to post here.

--Drew

Jeff said...

Brady, Ice must be rubbing off on you. We don't play Northwestern this year....

Jeff said...

Dut is probably grooming more than that in preparation for AKs sister to move in.....

Anonymous said...

Is Braxton reallly going to be any better than Pryor was? Or just a better coach....

This is not an ELITE argument today....2 games with a new coach. This is AT LEAST a game 6 kinda post.

- J Saul

Anonymous said...

I've wanted to comment so bad today, but unfortunately work has gotten in the way.

A few things:
*iceman is a fucking retard.
*osu has played TWO games, so this post is a bit premature
*the denard vs Braxton comparisons are not smart. Osu isn't trying to turn Braxton into a pocket passer.
*iceman is a fucking retard.
*everyone, including UFM, knows that Braxton is running too much
*many of Braxton's carries are not by design
*our lack of playmakers and receivers have added to Braxton's rushing attempts
*iceman is a fucking retard.

That's about it. Icemans arguments are so terrible that he makes Michigan fans cringe.

Dut

The Iceman said...

I love all the Ohio fans calling me retarded and pretty much promising Braxton Miller will become a great passing QB. These are the same dipshits that swore Troy Smiff was going to be a starting NFL QB someday. Forgive me if I don't lap up every word of liquid shit that rolls out of your mouths.

Anonymous said...

Iceman has yet to address the statistical truth bombs that were dropped to back up much of the commentariat's argument that Braxton is a better passer than Denard.

-Lil' Strut

Brady said...

I didn't necessarily mean Northwestern, Jeff. I was just using them as a lower tier Big Ten team for example.

Dut pointed out that lack of playmakers is a big problem. Abso-fucking-lutely. Half of the RB's are out with injuries and the WR core is definitely sub par. There is no Posey or Holmes out there to scare anybody. I'm not sure Braxton has much faith in throwing it down field. That is a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed for next season but I think it is a factor in MIller's happy feet.

GMoney said...

Well, Smiff WAS a starter at one point in the NFL.

Small sample size my ass. These pre-conference games against the proverbial cupcakes are supposed to be where you try new things (like the recently invented forward pass), not run your QB into the ground.

I can't wait for him to get hurt just for the press conference where a wise media member (perhaps from this blog) calls Urban out for his stupid play-calling and then Twitter gets banned from the galaxy or whatever because Urban is an asshole.

many of Braxton's carries are not by design--No, that's wrong. Zone reads don't count as broken play runs that aren't intended to be that

AK's sister moving in with Dut? That can't be good for The Fleshlights.

GMoney said...

I was just using them as a lower tier Big Ten team for example

So...all of them outside of Lansing???

Jeff said...

NW is cream of the crop right now in the B1G. Beat Vandy (out of the mighty SEC), and a Cuse team on the road that gave USC fits for awhile. Who else can say that in the B1G? Playing at NW is not an easy game for anyone this year

Prime99 said...

Not only did Troy Smiff start in the NFL, he sent Urban's boy Alex Smiff to the bench! (Nice choice, Singletary...)

Brady said...

Yeah, the Big Ten is a pile of shit this year. I can't argue that. Last weekend was a disaster. I was never one to worry about conference pride outside of bowl games before this season. After watching on Saturday, I have returned to my "Fuck the world" attitude. It's all Buckeyes again (maybe a little BGSU as well).

Prime99 said...

Heard this joke on Waddle & Silvy earlier, and it relates to Drew's comment the other day:

When is it ok to spit on a female Packers' fan's face?


When her beard is on fire.

Anonymous said...

That's a good one Prime!

Last place douchebags those Packers are.

--Drew

Grumpy said...

Troy Smith couldn't beat out a 60 yr. old Charlie Batch.

Prime99 said...

BECAUSE 60 YEAR OLD C BATCH IS A POCKET PASSER!!!!!

Anonymous said...

wanted to ask you fuckers your opinion on a fantasy footbal trade G$ and myself chatted about last night...

I was proposed that I trade Frank Gore for Roddy White. That would then leave me with AP and Kevin Smith at starting RB. My current starting WR's are Welker, Torrey Smith and Santonio. I would then obviously be able to bench the shit Santonio... It is NOT a PPR league... I am leaning toward yes but hate making a trade this early. What do you guys think?

Seal

Anonymous said...

My general rule is that I do not make trades or many other roster moves for the first few weeks. You have to have faith in your selections and let it play out before you can truly evaluate where you stand. With that being said, I would not trade a starting RB in an offense like SF's for a WR. Just my opinion.

-Lil' Strut

GMoney said...

And my superior opinion is that Frank Gore is ass. They have 4 RBs that they will be shuffling through over the season. And Roddy White is still a top ten receiver that gives you the luxury of firing a shitbird like Santonio.

Pull the trigger.

Back to Braxton though and please ignore Iceman's less than eloquent points while focusing on mine; Braxton as currently constructed is good enough to get you to the Rose Bowl probably. Braxton with the ability to hit receivers in stride DURING GAMES is a title-caliber QB. But he won't get there if he's running the ball 20+ times per game against mediocre competition.

I AM ELITE! As is Charlie Batch.

Prime99 said...

I agree with LS. Gore looked great and SF will run him until his leg bones grind his meniscus (meniscii?) to dust.

The Iceman said...

Pull the trigger. Frank Gore will get hurt at some point and Kendall Hunter already saw 10 touches in week 1. That number will only increase as the season goes on. Atlanta showed week 1 they are airing it out this year. Make the trade now. Roddy White upgrading Santonio Holmes is better than downgrading Frank Gore to Kevin Smith.

Anonymous said...

Before the false rumor mill gets going, AK's sister moved in for two weeks and moved out Monday. It was for school. And the Fleshlights did not suffer, as they started off 1-0 for the first time ever.

Im not sure what happened to iceman to make him so bitter about Braxton miller.

Dut

The Iceman said...

Where did I say Miller was ass and incapable of winning games? I didn't, penis face. If Denard can get Michigan to a BCS bowl game Miller can certainly do the same for Ohio. I'm simply saying the odds of him improving as a passer are not in his favor and if I were forced to place a wager on it I would bet he does not make the drastic improvement everyone thinks he will. That's it.

GMoney said...

And another thing, if Jeff is right and AKSis is moving in with Dut, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE GLORY HOLE!!! Is she going to work there now? It better remain as it is currently constructed...OR ELSE.

Jeff said...

Damn, looks like we missed the boat by a couple days on AKS working at the glory hole. I'm sure she will be back though, the groomed stubble always leaves them wanting more...

Mr. Ace said...

Holy fucking tard balls, I feel like I need to wear a poncho to avoid all the drool while reading these comments.

Denard is a better passer than Braxton RIGHT NOW. Don't let that Bama game fool you. Braxton could become a better passer than Denard, but Urb can hide his passing deficit even if he doesn't develop quickly.

Denard would have went fucking HAM last year and this year under DickRod. Our D would blow, but Denard would have been facefucking D's like a better version of Pat White. Yeah.

Braxton is going to get the shit kicked out of him this year because teams don't respect his ability to throw(rightly so) and they are going to stop the RB's when Big Ten play comes. I get G$'s point about developing as a passer, but Urbs isn't packing in his first season.

GMoney said...

I don't think that you have to pack in the season by asking a goddamn QB to pass a football more than he tucks and runs.

Denard isn't a better passer right now than anyone else (women included).

70 comments! We haven't had a day like this since the NBA Lockout Fantasy Arrest Draft (WHICH I WON WITH BIRDMAN'S KIDDIE PORN!).

Jeff said...

Ace,

"Denard would have went fucking HAM last year and this year under DickRod. Our D would blow, but Denard would have been facefucking D's like a better version of Pat White. Yeah."


Already said it at 8:57am. And yes it came from a Buckeye fan.

Drooling?!? Remember "May the Forcier be With you" and your "Let's get Denarded" posts?

Brady said...

Denard is NOT a better passer than Braxton right now. Are we forgetting the crippling pick sixes thrown right into the chest of defenders this season? Don't give me the "It was Alabama" defense either. Those passes could've been picked off by me (and my sub 5.5 speed). If anything, OSU has a better approach right now. Braxton is still a work in progress so we play to his strenghts. They don't sit him in the pocket to throw wounded ducks all day.

Anonymous said...

Correction, Ace, Denard would have went HAM for 5 of the first 6 games of the season (Bama excluded), in typical Denard fashion. Then Sparty would actually play fundamentally sound defense by keeping Denard in the box or forcing UM's RBs to beat them and in the process would bring Denard back down to earth. The rest of the season would be the same with Denard being injured in every game and playing terribly down the stretch. The flaw of Rich Rod's system was that it relied on RoboCop playing QB. If your only dual-threat QB gets injured, you are fucked.

-Lil' Strut

Mr. Ace said...

I'm right.

Anonymous said...

Can people please refer to him by his proper name of Ape?

Thanks.

--Drew

The Iceman said...

Jesus. All you have to do is smite the golden boy to get potentially 100 comments out of butt hurt Buckeye fans.

GMoney said...

This is not my first day. I know what I'm doing here. It also helps to believe what you're saying.

Everything that I said today was true...especially the part about how I know more football than Urb Diggity.

Anonymous said...

The most ruhtarded comment I've ever read on this blog....

' Don't give me the "It was Alabama" defense either.'

I don't think it really needs any explaining either.

- J Saul

Brady said...

You're right, J Saul, those throws that were 10 yards short right between the numbers of those linebackers couldn't be caught by anyone else.

Anonymous said...

J Saul doesn't come here often if that's the most dumb thing he's ever read.

--Drew

The Iceman said...

What Brady left out is that he legit thinks Braxton Miller would have SHREDDED that Tide defense. Best God Damn quarterback ever! Self taught, no lessons thank you very much! Braxton Miller could knock a microbe of a piece of lint off of a gnat's ballsack with his laser beam accuracy. Never forget.

Anonymous said...

Technically Braxton was kind of self taught last year. Damman was basically our QB coach.

--Drew

Prime99 said...

G$ may know more about football than Urban, but it's too bad that Urban also know less about heart attacks than The King.

Also, ELITE caption on Urban's picture. Should've mentioned that earlier.

Anonymous said...

hahahah I wasn't commenting on the physical hardship/easiness that it would take to catch a Denard horrible pass by standing in the right place at the right time....I'm laughing because if you can't use 'It was a BAMA D on the #1 team in the country / could potentially be one of the best college teams assembled' that caused out QB to play like shit, then you can never use the comment 'their D made out QB look like shit....'

- J Saul

Anonymous said...

I will * that they aren't the only D to make Denard look like shit either...

- J Saul

GMoney said...

Between the Urban caption and my reference to Braxton going to a high school named after Wayne Park, I've had a very ELITE day.

Basically, what JSaul is saying is...

SEC! SEC! SEC!

86 comments! A new record!

Brady said...

Fair enough, J Saul. I'm not saying the Bama defense isn't extremely disruptive and generally bad ass. The throws that basically capped the Michigan game were the pick sixes. Those two throws were fluttering change ups that landed right in the hands of Bama defenders. Denard had plenty of time and open throwing lanes. I just drew my own conclusions after that.

Did I ever say that Braxton would "shred" the Tide defense? Hells no. Please find the comment where I said anything close to taht.

The Iceman said...

You didn't have to say it, Brady. Your Braxton boner does all the talking for you.

Looks like we're falling just short of 100. Good effort today, fellas.