Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Dream Team? More Like Cream Team! Amiright?

              "Soooo, you guys lied about team flat tops then.  I see that now."



Before I get started, there's something I want to get off my chest.  I've been known to watch an obscene amount of TV from time to time and there's something that's really starting to bother me on a completely irrational level.  Commercials.  Now, commercials are fucking stupid as fuck to begin with and for the most part.  But there are some commercials that just put me in the fuckin red every time they come on.  The most recent is a Taco Bell commercial debuting the Cantina Bowl something or other.  They should call it the liquid shit bowl because A) it looks like filthy diarrhea and B) consuming this pile of hog slop earns you a 60 minute time out on the John.  Oh!  And I love how they have some professional cook/whore faced cunt preparing this Verlander special on TV all while trying to make the public believe it's some high class form of fast food.  Fuck you.  Here's the reality.  It'll make your man tits balloon to a hefty B-cup, it's actually prepared by a high school drop out father of 3 and it's made with ingredients found at the bottom of the dumpster that are also soaked in raccoon piss.  Stop trying to church up your food Taco Bell!  We know it's fuckin garbage and that's why we only eat it when we're hammered!  It's because we don't give a fuck what we do to our bodies after a certain state of intoxication.  It's why Damman is always waking up next to a girl who could play left guard for the Buckeyes.  Moving on.

Michael Jordan is a fucking asshole.  Listen...I'm not gonna get all Colon T. Cowturd on you here and say that the 2012 Olympic team is better than the 1992 Dream Team.  But I'm actually going to side with Kobe on this one and say the statement that he made isn't wrong.  This year's team could beat the '92 squad.  Why is that such a hilarious and ridiculous concept?  I've been listening to people completely over react to this for the past two or three days and I'm curious to what you all think.  My personal opinion is that it's closer than Jordan's "no comparison" statement suggests.  Here's why:

One of the arguments being thrown out is what would the '12 team do about the '92 bigs?  My answer would be: Ummmm, fucking guard them??  There were two 7 footers on the `92 team and there's one on this year's squad.  Ewing and Robinson were no bigger than Chandler right now.  He could easily guard either.  If the `92 team puts both Ewing and Robinson on the floor, throw Kevin Love out there who's big enough to bang with a 7 footer and who is also a 3 point shooter.  Now you just turned shit in your favor since neither Robinson or Ewing can guard a big who can also play the perimeter.  Boom.  Problem solved.

Maybe Jordan is too busy smoking cigars he's pleasured his own butthole with, but has he so quickly forgotten how fucking terrible the international teams were in 1992?  Who was the best Euro player back then?  Drazen Petrovic?  He couldn't even succeed at staying alive past his twenties.  Like he's going to be a threat to anyone on the court.  There's a reason the `92 team caved in everyone's taint.  Because there was no fucking competition.  The international talent today is monumentally better than in 1992 and that's why USA isn't doubling teams up anymore.

The Dream Team had 4 white guys.  That right there should tell you something.  Don't get me wrong...white power and all that KKK stuff that Ide loves, but those creamy milkers would not be able to keep up with the buckets of athleticism on this year's team.  Unless they planned on playing "old white guy at the rec" defense.  Those of you who play pick up ball know exactly what I mean.  For those of you who don't, it's real simple.  OWGATR defense is when you're being guarded by an older white fella who thinks he still has it but clearly doesn't.  After the realization hits that he can't keep up, he simply tries to level the playing field by grabbing your t-shirt/shorts as you blow by him.  Or, he will set a moving screen while hooking your arm.  It's cheating like a motherfucker and it's totally fucking gay.  I usually respond by lowering a shoulder and plowing right through that fucker's chest plate.  But I'm getting away from myself.  The quickness and athleticism on the 2012 team is insane.  And they were smart enough to only have one white dude.

Stuff the Hall of Fame nonsense up your big brown turd hole, Jordan.  You mean to tell me that this 2012 team won't have just as many HOF guys as the '92 team?  That comment was almost as tardo as following Brady on Twitter........almost.  Shit, even Andre Iguofiftyshots has a chance to accidentally be inducted if he keeps hoisting shot attempts at a pace that would make Vince Carter blush.  Go back to shit you;re good at...fathering terrible basketball players, growing Hitler staches and banging Mexican cleaning ladies...or whoever it was that you got caught raw dogging while married.  I really want to believe it really was a Mexican cleaning lady so that's what I'm sticking with.

Let me just say again.  By no means do I think this year's team is better than the '92 team.  But I do think it's close.  A lot closer than dick chuggers like Mike Greenburg do.  And I can't say this enough...Michael Jordan is a fucking fuck face.  I love the fact that his ego won't let him to see how terrible of an owner he is.  My only wish is that he ends up hated by everyone and bankrupt.  Is that too much to ask?  I don't think so.

65 comments:

Grumpy said...

Get serious. Even you can't believe that shit you just wrote. Jordan and Co. roll the current group.

MuDawgfan said...

Really interesting discussion. There are matchup problems EVERYWHERE for both teams.

The 92 Team has a bunch of guys that were in the 6'4-6'7 range.
Jordan, Drexler, Chris Mullins, Magic, Bird, Barkley and the forwards/guards for the 12 deam are much bigger - Melo, Lebron, A. Davis, Durant.

I swore I wouldn't fall into the trap but the more I think about it the more that they could complete with that team. Is Chris Mullins guarding Durant? Is Larry Legend guarding Kobe? Can John Stockton stay with CP3?

Tough matchups - all of them.

Grumpy said...

This is going to be a day of 30 year olds (or younger) who were 10 (or younger) when the Dream Team played. Even if you watched it, you couldn't appreciate what you were seeing.

GMoney said...

You want to tell me about how great the 2012 Olympic Team is that nearly got their shit STUFT by the ELITE ANDERSON VAREJAO last night???

You want to settle this debate right now? Here is the answer that you seek:

The team with Michael Jordan wins every time. End of discussion.

If you want to go a little further, the Dream Team left off Isiah Thomas who, while a big shithead and horrible judge of talent, is better than any PG on the 2012 team.

Mr. Ace said...

I am somewhere between Iceman and G$ on this. I don't think '92 would blow out '12...but, Jordan. Also, do you remember the 30 for 30 about Reggie Miller? Do you remember how physical NBA play was during the 90's? Durant would be broken before the end of the 1st quarter. '12 might have the athletes to hang around, but '92 is the better team. Simple.

Anonymous said...

This is so great. I am so glad you post these the night before as probably 20 minutes after you finished this, you were completely proven wrong and the idiot that you are.

The '12 team barely beat Brazil last night. 6 point game with 6 minutes to play?! Down 10 after 1 quarter?! Hahaha.

Oh and it was proven they cant guard bigs last night as Brazils bigs ate the USA team up.

God youre so dumb and constantly wrong.

The '92 team wins every time.

Seal

Anonymous said...

I'm with the Iceman here. I do agree that 92 would win, but it would be much closer than people would anticipate. The 92 team would also have never seen anything like the freak of nature that is LeBron, so it would be interesting to see how that would go. I'd just roll out my athletes with the 12 team and just see how it unfolded. Westbrook would also be an issue for them.

Isiah was TOTES better than Stockton.

I don't see why we should value Grumpy's opinion on this matter, since he doesn't even watch these current NBA guys.

--Drew

Anonymous said...

Seal...so, do you think this team won't win the gold medal? You are so fucking dense. You don't think they were experimenting with things last night? If they play that Brazil team in the real Olympics they will cruise to a 20-30 pt win. They use these games to tinker with line-ups and matchups. By using your "they barely beat Brazil", then I guess you think they will finish 5th or 6th in a month.

G$...you shouldn't bring things like Isiah into this, because then people can say well waht if Dwight Howard was healthy. It's team vs. team.

--Drew

Anonymous said...

Youre so quick to dismiss the FACTS. The '92 team never had a 6 point game with 6 minutes left. but they probably werent allowed to tinker with lineups in the 1992, right?

Obviously this team will win the gold. But they are not better than the '92 team.

Seal

GMoney said...

Drew, Grump still thinks that those Pat Riley led Olympic teams were the best.

Pippen could guard LeBron and not let him go off. Karl Malone would murder Durant the first time that he touched the ball. Who cares if Stockton isn't a great defender? White dudes from Gonzaga don't become HOFers by not knowing all the tricks in the book and I'm pretty sure that after the first time CP3 or Westbrook got by him, Sir Charles would make sure that they didn't drive to the rim again.

Here's a good question that goes off of what Ace said about physicality: If you think that players whine too much today (and they do), how bad would it be if they played under 90's rules?

Also - fuck LeBron

Anonymous said...

And the physical play comment by Mr Ace is ELITE.

Seal

GMoney said...

I heard that Brazil was tinkering with their lineup, too. See? It goes both ways (like a bisexual).

Don't tell me what I can and can't do. Isiah was perfectly healthy and his coach was the Olympic coach and they didn't take him. Howard, Bosh, and Wade are faggots. Not the same.

Anonymous said...

Brazil wasn't tinkering with a lineup against the USA...keep DERPing.

Isiah wasn't taken because that faggot Michael Jordan and his nut caddy Scottie Pippen were big cunts about it.

Seal...do you remember the competition that that 92 team had? Of course they never had a 6 pt game. I doubt Brazil even had a team. Some of those games they played against teams that looked like they would lose to high school teams in America.

--Drew

The Iceman said...

Seal is the troll of trolls and shouldn't even be taken seriously anymore. Of course USA wasn't going to blow out Brazil last night. The competition is much better in 2012 than it ever was in 1992. Or did you not see that I wrote that because you skim over these just to head to the comment section to resume being a retard.

I'm not saying this team is better than the '92 squad. I believe I wrote that twice. But I don't think if these teams play 50 times '92 wins all 50. MuDawg nailed it. I understand it was more physical in 92 but who the fuck is going to guard Durant. Or Lebron. Or CP/Deron Williams. As much as people want to focus on the problem of 2012 guarding 92's bigs...what the fuck is 92 going to do about 2012's insane athletic ability?

Anonymous said...

Yeah I forgot they didnt have basketballs and hoops in countries outside of the US all the way back in 1992.

Seal

Prime99 said...

I'm with G$. The 92 team would beat the current team by 10 or more every time. Just because Jordan is a terrible owner/GM/gambler/etc. does not nullify the fact that he's the greatest basketball player ever. Ever.

And Grumpy, don't be ageist. If anything, the 30 year old crowd should be biased for the 92 team. Those were superstars when we were 10 or 11. This current team we all respect but I think we all know that most of them are ass clowns that wear dumb glasses.

Anonymous said...

1992 USA RESULTS (8-0)

USA 116 Angola 48
USA 103 Croatia 70
USA 111 Germany 68
USA 127 Brazil 83
USA 122 Spain 81
USA 115 Puerto Rico 77
USA 127 Lithuania 76
USA 117 Croatia 85

"Brazil probably didnt have a team." It was 20 years ago, not 100 years ago dumb ass.

Seal

GMoney said...

If the argument is that if they played 50 games, 2012 would not lost them all, then I agree. But they lose 90% of them.

But that goes up to 100% if Magic cuts himself and starts flinging his AIDS blood around.

I just don't like the idea of these guys thinking that they MIGHT even be equals. They are not. They are inferior. Still great, but not equal.

I don't care: I'm rooting against them in London because I'm a terrorist and they are objectionable.

Anonymous said...

So, did Brazil have anyone even remotely capable of playing in the NBA on that team? Hell no. Last night they had a couple good ones. 2012 USA basketball would have crushed 1992 Brazil basketball as well.

Here are the NBA players off of the Silver Medal and Bronze Medal teams in 1992...

Drazen Petrovic
Dino Rada
Toni Kukoc
Arvydas Sabonis

FOUR mediocre to bad players on those two teams combined.

Now look at just Spain this year....

Pau Gasol
Marc Gasol
Serge Ibaka

That's three all-stars.

Plus,

Rudy Fernandez, Juan Carlos Navarro and Jose Calderon.

The competition they face now isn't even comparable.

--Drew

The Iceman said...

"Yeah I forgot they didnt have basketballs and hoops in countries outside of the US all the way back in 1992"

Jesus Christ, are you kidding me? The team USA beat last night had 4 NBA players on that team alone. How many Euro NBA players did the '92 competition have to play against? Four total throughout the rest of the teams? Maybe 5? There were Euro players getting autographs from Michael Jordan at half time and getting pictures taken with Charles Barkley as the game was going on. Are you really trying to sell the fact that '92 Team USA played the toughest competition? There's a reason they beat everyone by 50. Because they were playing against terrible basketball players. Why can't you understand that when you play shitty teams, you blow them out?

I say it's more like 60%...not 90%, G$.

GMoney said...

Arvydas is a goddamn legend, you bastard!

I don't believe that Marc Gasol and Ibaka have ever been all-stars (unless Gasol was this year, which is possible).

90%--you didn't factor in the AIDS and flat tops.

Prime99 said...

Teams can't fucking control the level of their competition. They can control how good/great they are. The level of talent is similar. The level of heart and desire is unmatched.

Jordan!

Anonymous said...

And what does Jordan's owndership ability have anything to do with this topic of conversation? Nothing.

Jordan is Jordan and would not have allowed his team to lose 40% of the time, EVER.

No one is in the same conversation as his from a talent/leadership/will to win perspective.

Seal

Mr. Ace said...

The "if they played 50 times" argument is dumb. If they played one time who the fuck are you betting on? 92. If the spread is '92 -10 who are you betting on? 92. What does the point spread have to be for you to put your money on '12. There is a debate we can all get behind.

This has turned into an international basketball debate. Very sad.

Brady said...

First of all, following me on Twitter is awesome. How else will you know my thoughts on a 2-2 pitch to Michael Brantley in the bottom of the 6th? You can't pay for awesome coverage like that.

Anyway, I tend to think the current team would be more than capable of hanging with the '92 squad. Guys are just bigger and faster these days. I'm not saying they would win but it would be a hell of a game. In fact, if Marty McFly is hanging around, I would like to see that matchup tomorrow. I would pay good pay-per-view money for that.

The international competition for basketball these days is light years ahead of where it was. Every country is gunning for the US. Back in '92, the opposition was more about getting autographs and sniffing our jocks than actually game planning to beat us.

Anonymous said...

Brady - what did you think of that Tribe game last night? Painful as fuck or what? Tampa slowed that game down to a hault and should have never been close to winning.

Vinnie Pestano is a badass.

Seal

GMoney said...

Another excellent comment from Ace. He's come back with a vengeance, people!!!

I'd bet on 2012 at +13.5. I don't know why I picked that number. I just did.

The Iceman said...

"Teams can't fucking control the level of their competition"

I understand that. But if the competition is weak, you cannot use a 50 point win margin as an argument as to why the 92 team would beat the 12 team.

If the spread is -10, I would put money on the 2012 team...because it's gambling and just because someone is favored doesn't mean they're a lock to win it.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but Tyson Chandler would be just completely abused by either the Admiral or Ewing. And he's got no offensive game, so they could leave him alone for the most part and focus on anyone that might be causing them issues.

Prime99 said...

Iceman, in the words of Drago Lundgren, "You vill lose."

Brady said...

The tribe should've won that game easily last night, Seal. Asdrubal left 7 guys on base last night by himself! He is in one of the worst slumps of his career right now.

Damman and I were convinced that the Indians were losing after the 4th and 5th innings. I just can't believe how bad this team has been with the bases loaded. Luckily they got away with it last night but that shit has to change.

Vinnie Fucking Pestano is my man crush. How he didn't get more All Star love is beyond me. The guy is lights out with that slider. I'm still looking for a VFP shirt to buy.

Anonymous said...

Marc Gasol was an all-star last year and Ibaka was 1st team NBA All-Defense and led the league in Blocks. That Spanish team kicks the shit out of any team in 1992 not named Ammmurica.

I'm with Iceman...would TOTES put money on 2012 -10.

I didn't realize that Michael Jordan never lost any basketball games...thanks for that knowledge Prime.

--Drew

The Iceman said...

That's fine Anon. I'll give you that. Tyson chandler would be completely abused by either. They'll make up for it with no one on that 92 roster being able to stay in front of Lebron or Durant. Or with the LOL that comes with Stockton guarding Westbrook/CP3/Williams. Why is everyone just ignoring the speed and athleticism that this 2012 team brings?

GMoney said...

Prime, in the words of Drago Lundgren, "Iceman, stop jerking off to me".

GMoney said...

Ice, Pippen could slow down both and you know it. Not stop, but slow down. And I'd put Chris Mullin on LeBron. He would be so shocked by the white light in front of him that he wouldn't know what to do. PROBABLY BECAUSE HE GREW UP WITHOUT A DAD, RIGHT, COLIN!!!

While LeBron would get his, Larry Legend would be dropping over the head threes on his ass all night once the 2012 was forced to double team the post constantly because Rear Admiral and Chewing were going nuts. There are extreme mismatches on both sides.

Let's not forget The Kobe Factor. He would TOTES chuck up 40 consecutive shots as he tries to prove that he is better than Jordan. Factor that in and I'd move the line to 1992 -16.

Mr. Ace said...

I would take '12 if I got +17.5 and this is a one game/"Gold Medal game" situation...but I wouldn't feel great about it. I just don't see the advantage for the '12 team.

-I would rather have Stockton over any PG on the '12 team. HE LEADS THE NBA IN ASSISTS AND STEALS FOR FUCK SAKE! And he is white.

-Lebron is a freak, sure, but Jordan would lock him down.

-The BIG's advantage for '92 has already been discussed.

-The PF's for '92 are Barkley and Malone...how do you do better than that? Barkley shot fucking 7-8 from 3 during the Olympics.

-And Bird, Magic, Mullins, Pippen, Drexler haven't even been mentioned.

The only players from the '12 team that would have even made the dream team are Kobe and Lebron...and probably Durant.

Prime99 said...

I never said he never lost any games. Once he hit his prime, the Bulls had a team go 72-10, never lost a finals series, and he was clearly the most clutch player I've ever seen in my lifetime. I've seen LeBron and Kobe lose on a big stage. Both are great, but if you give me Jordan in his prime (especially with all the other HoFers) I'm going all in.

The Iceman said...

Jordan would lock down Lebron. Stop it. Just fucking stop it. The speed of these guys this year is light years beyond the speed of ANYONE those guys saw in the 80s and 90s. You can't sit there and tell me that 92 wouls shut down every 12 player with ease because they never played against anyone who came close to the combination of speed and athleticism. Well, besides Kurt Rambis.

Nate B. said...

As much as Buke hyped up the Pacers from the Napoleon Intramurals, you'd think they were the best in the 90's.

G$ - I'm assuming you were on that team?

Prime99 said...

When I was in Vegas in February, I bet on the Bulls -13 over the Bobcats. With all these lines being thrown out there, that's the kind of respect the 2012 team is getting.

Anonymous said...

Oh man, did I pick a bad day to get to this party late.

Sorry, Iceman, but you are fucking wrong. Not even like kind of wrong, but WAY fucking wrong.

First off, and I am deeply surprised that everyone let this slip by, but you compared the number of HoFers between the squads. Are you high? '92 had ELEVEN OUT OF TWELVE. If you even begin to say that '12 will have near that I will strangle you in your sleep. You shouldn't even be allowed to post after that troll.

"Tyson chandler would be completely abused by either. They'll make up for it with no one on that 92 roster being able to stay in front of Lebron or Durant. Or with the LOL that comes with Stockton guarding Westbrook/CP3/Williams."

I think people truly underestimate David Robinson. No one will be able to stay in front of Durant? Let him come at Malone or Sir Charles, I would actually pay money to see that.

FACT: LeBron would go in once and spend the next 3 possessions crying to the refs. This would happen plenty of times.

Kobe is the only one I think that would run with those guys. He is truly the only one left in the NBA with that killer instinct. Maybe Chris Paul, but he is a PG. D-Will would get gay raped by the much better and whiter Stockton.

I don't feel like anyone has mentioned this, so I will. Jordan.

Pippen would lock down anyone that needed to be locked down. BlackAIDS was a 6'8 2, good luck finding someone to play with that. Clyde coming off the bench against Harden? Stephen A. wouldn't make such bold claims.

Larry Legend might have been old and broken, but that never stopped him from coming in and splashing a three in the name of French Lick on a fucking dime.

Would it be close? Maybe. If you want to argue semantics over the new international rules, which, by the way, were in place to stop '92 from ever happening again, then OK, '12 does have a decent shot.

I have read literally every story that has been in the news the past two months about the '92 team. If you haven't seen the NBA TV documentary, it is ELITE. But, those guys actually told the coaches to fuck off during practice so they could play 100% and cutthroat against each other. There were hard fouls, like Flagrant 2 type shit in practice. 2012 sits around and doles out cutesy blowjobs while playing some xbox game. Fuck that.

1992 wins on GRIT alone.

Ide

The Iceman said...

You lost all credibility with Barkley or Malone being able to guard Durant, Ide. Neither one of those guys is even remotely quick enough to guard Durant.

Now Pippen would lock down Lebron? What the fuck is happening here?! Who did Pippen guard in the 90's that even comes close to what Lebron is? Who do you use as a measuring stick with such a bold claim? The best player in the league and ONLY person that you could use as a comparison played on Pippen's fucking team so he never would have guarded him. Pippen could lock down Lebron. Jesus Christ...that's rich.

Lebron could guard Magic. Done.

GMoney said...

Scottie may be horrible at investments, but he is on the first team All-Defense team in the history of the league (I think this is a FACT). He could guard LeBron.

Ide makes a rare good point. The ONLY two guys on that team that could mentally play in this fantasy game are Kobe and CP3.

Flip the SCRIP: who the fuck is Durant going to guard? I honestly don't know if he could play in this game. If you just plan on trading baskets with the Dream Team then they are going to win by 30.

This is a way better debate than I thought it would be. Probably because everyone is ganging up on Iceman and Drew. That's always fun.

GMoney said...

I mean LOSE by 30 if you just try to outscore them. Please accept my apology.

GMoney said...

Oh, Nate B, you're damn right I was on that legendary team (still have all three of my shirt jerseys!). I was a member of The Fab Five and starting combo guard (due to my well-publicized love of Combos) on a championship team.

We are still undefeated against the "varsity" team as they were vanquished at least twice in games of drunk basketball. The school-sponsored inferior team has still never beaten us.

Anonymous said...

"You lost all credibility with Barkley or Malone being able to guard Durant, Ide. Neither one of those guys is even remotely quick enough to guard Durant."

As I don't see the entire strategy of '12 running a transitional offense (though that may be their only advantage), I'm pretty sure Chuck or Karl could man up Durant in the half court. At least enough to make him pay dearly for trying to get to the rim.

Flip side that argument. Anyone that knew anything about Karl Malone knew 2 things. He loves squirrel and he has the dirtiest layup in the history of the game. Durant gets in the middle of that he will be sharing heat bags with Larry the rest of the game.

Ide

Anonymous said...

"Now Pippen would lock down Lebron? What the fuck is happening here?! Who did Pippen guard in the 90's that even comes close to what Lebron is? Who do you use as a measuring stick with such a bold claim? The best player in the league and ONLY person that you could use as a comparison played on Pippen's fucking team so he never would have guarded him. Pippen could lock down Lebron. Jesus Christ...that's rich."

How about Michael Jordan every fucking day in practice? That a good enough measuring stick for you?

Ide

The Iceman said...

Pippen's a first team defender in an era that never saw an athlete like Lebron. You're right...he would have had no problem shutting down a freak athlete superior to the guys he's used to guarding. Excellent point.

What do you mean Durant couldn't play in this game? Yeah, he's skinny but so was everyone else on that 92 team. You act like Drexler, Pippen and Mullen went 265 each. Malone and Barkley had the most girth but still weren't enormous and impossible to body up. Even Robinson and Ewing weren't abnormally huge for being 7 footer. Neither one of those guys went over 240.

The Iceman said...

The Bulls have a lot of practices back in the day where half the first team would scrimmage the other half of the first team, Ide? No better way to practice meshing as a team and to get you ready for game day then to split up the guys who start every game in practice. God that was dumb.

GMoney said...

If you think that Durant takes one step inside the three point line on either side of the court then you are a crazy person. Dude ain't playing anywhere close to the paint in this mythical game.

The '92 team is filled with bruisers. The 2012 is almost entirely finesse.

Anonymous said...

So you are going to sit there and say that weight was indicative of physicality? Those boys didn't take charges back in the day, if you remember. You come at Barkley, it was well known you were going to pay for it. He fucking brained his defender in the first game of the Olympics to send a message. You think he is going to let Backpack run rampant on him?

What exactly do they really have to shut down on LeBron? His shaky at best jumpshot? You may forget that Jordan averaged around 3 steals a game for his career. That is fucking stupid. LeBron can't dribble around Jordan (who is only 2 inches smaller so he could easily spot him), and would have to power through him. Good luck pissing that man off after you knock him on his ass.

Oh, Magic was 6'8 too and played a position no one his size could ever dream of playing again. Could you even imagine LeBron trying to go after his game. El oh el.

Ide

Anonymous said...

"The Bulls have a lot of practices back in the day where half the first team would scrimmage the other half of the first team, Ide? No better way to practice meshing as a team and to get you ready for game day then to split up the guys who start every game in practice. God that was dumb."

Um, yes? It seemed to have worked as well. What, with the best two records in league history. Aside from practice they played one on one almost every day afterwards to better their respective skills.

I'm pretty sure a core group that has played near 10 years together can switch up the lineup without fucking up their chemistry. Unless 70 win seasons are flukes.

Ide

Brady said...

ELITE arguement today! I'm usually bitching and moaning about NBA talk but this discussion is fascinating. I'm just going to put up my feet and enjoy the ride that is the comments section. Both sides have vast basketball knowledge and it is awesome... no a pleasure to watch the back and forth today.

For what it's worth, I think the '12 squad could hang with '92 team. I have no facts or intimate knowledge of practices 20 years ago to back that up. Just a gut feeling.

That being said, if anybody wants to talk baseball, I'll be here.

Anonymous said...

Drexler, Bird and Magic would all be worthless in this game. All three in their 30's and broken down. The thought of them running up and down the court with Westbrook and LeBron makes me L to the fucking O to the fucking L.

--Drew

Prime99 said...

Iceman's argument is essentially that humans evolve because of technology and various other things - ie the 92 team is less athletic because they didn't have the same evolutionary advances that the 2012 team has. Assume they have the same advances making Jordan a little better, Pippen a little better, Bird's back a little healthier, Magic a little less AIDSier, and Barkley would still be the same. 92 would kill 2012.

GMoney said...

Tyler Zeller will eat all of these fuckers up like he's PWNING Vegas right now.

Good job everyone; way to get involved in a debate that can't be won today.

Anonymous said...

I dont' even understand Prime's argument. I'm too stupid to get it.

G$...Matt Barkley's talkin' shit about ya boy. Says he would ahve gone # 2 in teh NFL draft ahead of RGIII.

--Drew

Anonymous said...

You know, for this being a dead period in the sports calendar, we have been having an awful lot of heavy commenting days lately.

-Lil' Strut

GMoney said...

LS, I've noticed that as well. This site is CRAY.

Matt Barkley is a queer. His opinion means nothing. The only thing that I know is a guy who "thinks" that he would go #2 in the Draft went back to school because he likes sucking on Lane Kiffin's junk.

The Iceman said...

The heavy days are mostly because we all want to take turns telling Brady how gay live Tweeting Indians games are.

Matt Barkley continues to love boners to this day.

Prime99 said...

Gotta love heavy flow days.

Iceman dislikes Brady live tweeting Indians games like I dislike Ndamagcunt Suh.

Brady said...

I'm going to mention both Ice and Prime in every tweet tonight.

GMoney said...

Matt Barkley's thirst for boners will never be quenched*.





*barring a meeting with Greg Oden of course

Anonymous said...

Well you guys have beaten this horse, but I've got a subpoint.

Now that Jordan is well removed, but still not at that pure nostalgia stage, can we have an honest objective conversation about the fact that he might not be the best player of all time?

MJ Career Stats: 30 PPG, 5.3 APG, 49% FG% and 83% FT%
Oscar Robertson Career Stats: 25 PPG, 9.5 APG, 48% FG% and 83% FT%

So MJ scored 5 more points a game, but had the benefit of the 3 point line. With The Big O averaging 5 more assists per game, he accounted for for 10+ more ppg.

So here it is. The classic question that human kind has been debating since 1998: If you were playing against the Monstars to save the planet and you could only take one, who would you take?

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