Thursday, May 13, 2010

Big Ten Expansion: An Open Forum


OK. No more basketball talk that gets me worked up (at least today...the eulogy is ready to roll for tomorrow morning though). I have hopped back down off the ledge and firmly believe that the Cavs have thrown the last two games on purpose so that when they win in 7, they can shock the world. Yeah...that's the ticket! That's got to be it!

Anywho, one of the more under the radar stories this week has been the fact that apparently the Big Ten is really close to making their move toward expansion. Of course, Jim Delaney denies this because he is a pompous and ignorant tampon, but I know he's a liar. Why would a radio station in Missouri have any reason to lie about this? So let's talk about this. And by "talk", I mean, "I will give some quick opinions, cut it short, and we can keep the dialogue open in the comments". It worked well on Midget Day, let's see how we do today.

Now I've previously taken a stance on who I think that the Big Ten should add. But I did that under the assumption that they only wanted one school to join. Well fuck me running as it sounds like they want at least 3 schools with the hopes of luring 5 and creating a monster conference with more schools that people can hate. Obviously, they are going to make one last ditch effort at Notre Dame which they will decline because they are faggots.

That leaves them going in other directions namely WAAAAAY outside of the traditional Big Ten geography. Rumor has it that Missour-ah has received an offer and that Nebraska and Rutgers are also going to get their e-vite of doom. This tells me two things: 1.) They do not care about the integrity of their basketball conference and 2.) Pretty much all of the money from the Big Ten Network will be spent on travel. Minneapolis to Piscataway for a Tuesday night tennis match? Why not!!! Let's look at each school:

Missouri - border rivals with Illinois, up and coming football program, opens up Kansas City and St. Louis markets
Nebraska - extremely strong tradition, slow plodding players will fit in well in slow plodding conference, adds another legit program to the Big Ten now that Michigan is no longer legit, Tommy Lee went there, would effectively KILL the Big 12
Rutgers - other than opening up the NYC market and their top notch Turf Management program, this does nothing to boost the conference profile

What do you think? Does this work? Who are the other two potential recruits to be lured (UConn, Syracuse?)? How long before the Big East and Big 12 fold and we are left with 4 super conferences? BUT YOU WILL NEVER DESTROY THE AWESOME POWER OF THE MAC! Let's hear it.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why Rutgers. This college is worthless for sports, they might as well have asked Buffalo or temple to join. Ya they want people inm New York to see the big ten and get the money off of it, but Rutgers is a shit school and will be last in the big ten in all sports. They should screw Notre Dame and puss for Texas, this would be a great addition and I would love to see it happen. This will be a hail marry and won't happen but it would be cool or they shold try and get Oklahoma but this also won't happen. The big ten should go for the 4 best big 12 teams and screw Rutgers .

Naptown Wolverine

GMoney said...

They should kick Michigan out for lack of competitiveness.

Grumpy said...

This will happen, causing the other big conferences to consolidate and they will have their own monopoly, effectively freezing out everyone else. Then they'll hold their own National Championship. ND better take the offer or they'll be left on the outside looking in.

MUDawgfan said...

Love the Missou pickup. They immediately become one of the best basketball teams in the conference.

If they do add these teams - is it assumed that they'll break off in to East/West Divisions?

Mr. Ace said...

Rutgers is only getting an offer if ND turns it down. ND probably will, but I think they may realize that the Big East is going to be dead and the rest of their sports will have no place.

The Jersey area does have alot of talent...but that's about all. Maybe the Big Ten thinks it can crack open the NY market. I thought all along that Pitt made the most sense out of any team, I'm surprised their name hasn't been included.

I think the BT will be kicking themselves if they take Missou and Nebraska and then the Big Twelve crumbles and the SEC or somebody is left to pick up Texas and/or Oklahoma.

GMoney said...

I've heard rumblings that Texas may eventually seek Notre Dame status. It may just be because I'm hungry though.

Drew said...

I had lunch with a couple of the writers for Bucknuts yesterday and this was a popular topic of discussion. I think it's obvious that they are going to 16 teams and I'm fine with that...as it's obvious were going to have 4 super conferences. I definitely don't like Rutgers, but I think with this many teams you are going to see a weekly Thursday night game on BTN...Rutgers and NW can swap that on and off.

I'd rather have Syracuse than UConn. What's UConn going to be doing in football when Randy Edsall leaves? At least he will still be there to beat Michigan this year.

G$...I think you are off base on your travel thoughts. It's probably 30 more minutes of flight to fly past Penn State to Piscataway. The $$ isn't in the extra miles...the vast majority of costs are for securing the plane, crew, etc.

I don't think Texas is an option. My dream five additions would be ND, Nebraska, Mizzou, Syracuse and Rutgers (I'm just including Rutgers because I think they ahve some weird obsession that they would help in NYC, when they wouldn't whatsoever)

Grumpy said...

Piscataway isn't even on NYC's radar. Taking Rutgers to appease Joe Pa would be a huge mistake. How much longer will he live/coach.

Mr. Ace said...

Drew, you would take UConn or Cuse over Pitt from the Big East? I understand that Pitt doesn't really extend our footprint, but I think they will bring in more quality sports across the board. I would want UConn before Cuse.

GMoney said...

They should take Cincinnati because fuck Jim Tressel. UM and MSU have to share their state, so should that asshole.

GMoney said...

Oooooh, Drew, you are sooooo awesome having lunch with a couple of faggots who write about Buckeye sports on the internet. That may be the most pathetic admission in the history of this site with exception of the time that Dut came out of the closet.

Drew said...

G$....Go dock dicks with Grumpy.

Ace...I don't like Pitt for a few reasons. They don't have their own football stadium, they are a city college and the Buckeyes recruit Western PA very well these days so I don't need them in the same conference. I also think it would be good to gain area...the Big 10 already has the Pitt area covered.

Anonymous said...

Ace- Texas isn't going to the SEC. Texas cares about academics.. The SEC doesn't. Why do you think MUdawgfan is such a retard? Texas will join the PAC-10 before the SEC.

MUdawg- Missouri immediately becomes one of the best bball schools?? I think MSU, OSU, Purdue, Illinois, and Wisconsin would finish ahead of them. They have 1 elite 8 finish in the last 15 years. What makes them one of the best basketball schools again?

This is really exciting shit. This paves the way for a 4 team playoff. If there were 4 superconferences, ND would fuck themselves by not joining a conference. Who would give a shit about their meaningless non-conference games anymore?

I would like to add Nebraska, Missou, and ND. I can't think of another school that's reasonable that I would want. F Rutgers, pitt, and Cuse.

Dut

Mr. Ace said...

Really Dut, a 4 team playoff based on the super conferences? Obama won't let that shit happen. And ND has too much cache in college football to be left out of national championship picture even if independent.

I don't really care where Texas will go, the point is they won't go to the Big Ten if we take Mizz and Neb.

New ideal situation: Mizz, Neb, and ND within the next year or two. Then when the Big 12 folds a couple years later, get Texas and Toledo(or whoever, it really doesn't matter).

GMoney said...

Missouri would be in the top half of basketball prgrams. And they are better right now than Illinois because Bruce Weber is awful.

MuDawgfan said...

Dut - smart enough to fuck your mom in the ass, multiple times.

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I said one of the best, not the best. Mike Anderson wins wherever he goes and his team would immediately be one of the most athletic in the league. Clearly they're behind MSU, Ohio State and Purdue. But they're faster and more athletic that UI (who they drilled last year) and Wisky.

I love the fucksticks that support Ohio State arguing that the Big Ten is all about academics. Who the fuck are you trying to kid? It's all fun and games to call SEC teams rednecks and thugs - but you simply refuse to acknowledge your school cranks out illiterate mongoloid athletes by the boatload. Furthermore - last time I checked, Mrs. Katzenmoyer was still petitioning the school to create an academic program for "Future Professional Athletes"

And the SEC will not counter with Texas. Why? Because if you take Texas, you have to take A&M and TexTech with you (according to Tex legislators) They'll make a play for Oklahoma and Florida State (one team to the east and one to the west)

Drew said...

MUDawg....you are a fucking retard. NOBODY is saying that the Big Ten is looking for good schools, so that their athletes will be smart. How fucking stupid are you?

The Big Ten is the only conference that has every one of it's members as part of the Association of American Universities...which is a crazy research association. Not every university out there is a research institution. The Big Ten schools share a $ 5.6 Billion research fund. There is MILLIONS to be made for these schools to get into the big ten just for their research money.

The Academics talk has ZERO to do with athletics.

GMoney said...

Can you guys please be civil. I need to leave for an hour so I can have lunch with the pioneers from Bucknuts.com. It has always been a dream of mine to meet Steve Helwagen.

Anonymous said...

Dut you going to let MUdawgiie DAWG talk about your Mom like that?!

I just don't see how ND can continue to say no, they are becoming more and more irrelevant in college football every year. Its like watching the Farve Saga because they still continure to talk about them every year like they are going win a title.

I think it will be good to expand and operate like all the other conferences. It really doesn't matter who the fuck they bring in isn't OSU just going to win everything every year anyways?!!?!?!?!?!?

J Saul

GMoney said...

J Saul, who do you root for now anyway since you claim to be a Michigan fan since birth but I've seen you were anOSU shit on more than five occasions?

Notre Dame's situation makes them feel special because they are vain skidmarks. Giving that up to be just another team in another conference is not an option.

Mr. Ace said...

I think J Saul goes both ways if you know what I mean...

Anonymous said...

Just because its been on my skin doesn't mean its reached my heart...

J Saul

MuDawgfan said...

Lot of solid hate in these comments - well done all around. We need more days like this.

Drew said...

VERLANDER just mowing down the Yankees.

Anonymous said...

CC tagged for 5 runs in 6 innings. Miggy and Boesch with back to back jacks. Don't fuck with the Tigers this year!!!

Dut

GMoney said...

Bad time to have a slump since the White Trash haven't trotted out a starter with an ERA under 4.50 this week and all of them have been nails. But that tends to happen when studs like Randy Lose, Thames, Greg Golson, Ramiro Pena, and the great Juan Miranda are in the lineup due to injury. I'm not too worried. You will be sitting at home in October.

Jon, you are an embarrassment. You are worse than Lawrence Taylor and Big Ben's love child.

Drew said...

Shut the fuck up G$. Look at you making lineup excuses when you guys started Jeter, A-Rod, Tex and Cano in all four games this series. I'm sorry that you don't have studs like Brennan Boesch to come up for your injured players and hit bombs off of guys like C.C.

Anonymous said...

G$- I don't think its a slump. I just think Arod isn't the same player without the juice!

Mr. Ace said...

WHO IS FUCKING PUMPED FOR THE PREAKNESS!!!

...baseball sucks

GMoney said...

Actually, it's easy to make lineup excuses when inferior pitching looks great against them. They are in a slump and your white trash team in which 50% of the players have classy forearm tats took advantage of that. Good for you.

Again, you will be sitting at home in October. You losers will probably climb on top of the dugout and spray champagne on your toothless fans after winning your World Series today. Maybe carry Jimmy Camel off the field, too!

Mr. Ace finger-fucks Calvin Borel. The Big Ten still sucks.

Mr. Ace said...

I prefer the term "finger blast."

Drew said...

Love G$ talking about other team's forearm tattoos when he has A.J. Burnett pitching for his squad.

GMoney said...

AJ Burnett is white trash.

My God I don't think it's possible to be more nervous than I am right now.